Well allow me to clue you in.
Remember that post a few days back that I wrote about my engine light coming on out of the blue in my vehicle? Well apparently I left my gas cap off in my car. At least, that's what Billy Bob Jack Ass at the dealership service department said, which I immediately translated to "I have no fucking idea why the light is on. We couldn't find a cause, so we are going to make you look like a complete jack ass by insinuating that you don't know how to turn a round plastic thing clockwise." Now had I not sent Brent outside to check this prior to me taking my car in to be serviced, he would most likely be giving me shit for not being capable of carrying out such a simple task. Guess what? He said my gas cap was on perfectly.
Even I know all about righty tighty, lefty loosey Billy Bob Jack Ass, you lying asshat!
So of course I can't have random lights coming on like that. If my gas cap really wasn't the culprit, what was? Would I be at risk of breaking down every time I drove my car? What happened if I broke down after work in the wee hours of the morning? What then? What if some serial killer was out on the lose when I broke down, and he took advantage of a poor lady on the side of a desolate road? (They have those in Dallas, you know!) I mean, these are all very plausible circumstances in my mind. I just had to make them plausible in Brent's mind.
Score!
So a few days ago when I asked you how long you thought it would take for me to get a new ride, and Brent replied, and I quote, "really goddamned long", I just want you to know that he has since changed his tune. It only took like 2 1/2 days. I'm not sure, but I think it was the serial killer scenario that won him over. he he he Sucka!!
However, he did have a few stipulations to this new vehicle deal. In a nut shell, I have a certain budget to remain within (HAHA.. Ahem. Yeah, budget...) and he refuses to negotiate with anyone, or drive to any of the dealerships with me. If I were an idiot, I wouldn't see through what he's trying to do, but unfortunately for him I'm not. He's hoping that I crash and burn like the last time I tried to get involved with our previous vehicle purchase.
Apparently going into a dealership and stating right off the bat that your trade-in is completely fucked up and currently being worked on, isn't necessarily "need to know information" to tell your car salesman. I figured as much when I saw Brent's eyes roll back, and he began banging his head against the wall repeatedly. Oddly enough, after my little outburst I was no longer allowed to say anything else. EVER.
Whatever. Live and learn is what I always say.
So this time I went into this armed with info. I googled, and searched, and price checked, and figured out payoff amounts, and interest rates, etc. All shit that I absolutely hate to do, by the way, because dealing with numbers or anything remotely financial isn't really my bag. So the last few days I've been talking to douchebag after douchebag. I've looked at vehicles, and I've driven vehicles, being careful not to look too eager. I've heard "crunch some numbers" and "let me talk to my manager" more times than I can count. I'm growing weary people.I'm losing my faith, and my fight. I've even resorted to asking Brent for help, but for once he's sticking to his lame ass guns.
Today was the last straw. This is where choking Richard with my big balls comes in. I spoke with this tool on the phone, and we talked about a specific vehicle. I told him all of the pertinent information, and he said that he could get me in this particular vehicle for a price that was within "the budget". (thank you David fucking Ramsey) All I had to do was drive almost an hour away so we could talk about this in person. So being the trusting person I am, I drove almost an hour away so we could do this.
Now I know this is going to shock the hell out of you, but Richard is a lying sonofabitch. After all was said and done, he quoted me a $200 higher monthly payment than we spoke about on the phone, and then he had the nerve to act like he had dementia when I brought up the fact that he said something totally different on the phone.
So congratulations, Richard. You are officially a giant....
So I've deduced that having a vagina is holding me back in getting the deal that I want. Now it's time to bring in the big guns. I have a family member that will be my "quarter back" if you will. He could talk Al Gore into buying a gas guzzling Hummer, so I have no doubt that I will get what I want in the end. It's just going to take a little longer. If I'm lucky, maybe I'll get the chance to tell Richard to crunch those numbers and stick them squarely up his fat, lying ass. Not that I'm bitter about spending my day off driving all over hell and back for NOTHING or anything.
"You're the one who wants a new car. Have fun with that."
Give me some advice. You know you want to.
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Your approach really isn’t too far off from what I usually do. I find all the dealerships within a 45 minute drive, and go over all the details over the phone. Maybe 10 or so? I’d much rather be in my own home, drinking my own coffee, than standing around some cheesy, tacky dealership surrounded by fat, ugly, sweaty, men sporting ‘off the rack’ suits from Sears or Marshalls. Then I call the top few back and basically lie, telling each one that the other offered me a better price, until I get it as low as I think they will go, or lose patience. (Usually the latter.)
If somebody then tries to fuck with me I walk out. Sometimes they stop you, sometimes they don’t, but after a couple somebody will do what they agreed to over the phone. Good luck!!
Deal with a salesman at the end of the end of the month when they are trying to get their quota in. Do it while it is raining, and keep them outside next to the car in question and keep them out there in ther rain asking as many questions as possible. They hate the rain.
One other thing...A low cut dress, that comes far above the thigh, and hi heels would help. And i mena for you to wear that not the salesman. Cheers and Good Luck!!
Dare I tell you our Honda Pilot did the same thing once? Engine light kept coming on and dealer couldn't find anything wrong. Finally gave me the gas cap thing. Said unless you closed it and heard it click sever times (ie overclose) then it can screw with the emissions sensor. Started overclosing making sure to "click" it 3-4 times & it and it never happened again. Drove the car another 30,000 miles or so...
I had a girlfriend/co-worker (in purchasing) buy a car over the phone! Yes, she did! Negotiated a price, had the papers faxed, she signed, brought the check after work & drove away. That girl had balls. Me? not so much.
Scott- That was basically my tactic, except it hasn't worked just yet. For example when negotiations were going down for the vehicle I currently have, we test drove it keeping it over night, and when Brent brought it back the next day and said we weren't interested because the price was too high, and he walked right out.
The salesman ran after him in the parking lot, and a deal was reached.
>I< try the same move, and those assholes just let me keep on walking.
I don't get it....
Matt-Man- Fuck that. I wore a low cut top yesterday and that got me nowhere fast.
Peg- Lalalalalalalalalalaaaaaaa
Linda- Uh, yeah I probably won't be going that route. I'm all about test driving the merchandise out prior to the committment.
1st off, it doesn't matter what time of the month it is. They all say that.
Are you buying a new or used car? I can give you a shit load of info to go in with if you email me. I worked in that buisness for 15 years and know all of the tricks. When you call them on the phone, their only job is to get you in the door, so believe NOTHING they say on the phone.
Bringng someone else in with you will help. They call that a 2nd baseman and it really pisses salesmen off. So, I encourage that.
Plus, where is my freaking prize! I have to win something for calling that you would get the ok within a week.
See, I totally believe in your SKLZZZZZ!
Danielle- Consider yourself emailed. Now tell me everything you know.
Don't worry, you'll get your prize.
Of course you don't like numbers - you are a nurse. Frankly, our patients are LUCKY that we get the dosages right. I have a science/art mind. I can assess your symptoms and wrap that bandage like friggin origami - negotiate the price of a car? Maybe if you shoot Richard up with an overdose of valium you could get him to sign on some better numbers.
The gas cap can be a big culprit since if it isn't fully clicked you lose the seal. The problem is that the car only runs the emission thing every so often.
However besides actually seeing the car and signing paperwork you never have to do anything in person. My friend L likes Carmax cause she can do it all online.
Great new profile pic.
Okay, I bought my car brand new and got a great price for it. Here's what I did... after I decided what kind of car I wanted, I spent $20 on a package of complete vehicle/market/rebate information from www.fightingchance.com. They tell you about rebates that only the dealers know about, what the average selling price is, what you can expect in your market, etc... all the information you could ever want and more.
And THEN, they tell you how to do the "fax attack" - which is exactly the method that I used. No haggling whatsoever. And they didn't know that I was a woman until they offered me a deal over the phone. It was completely awesome and empowering and Jason was blown-away impressed.
I was so impressed with their information that I am for sure using it for any vehicle purchases in the future. Check it out and see what you think.
Here's my advice....stick with the car you have. (I think Brent would like advice best as well):)
Orah- You have a good point. I think this is all Brent's fault. He's the one that's actually good with numbers and all things financial. That's my story and I'm sticking to it! ;)
Mike- Thanks!
Yeah, we've purchased a car through carmax before and it was a nice experience. Totally different from the one I'm having now. There is a reason why that place does as well as it does.
Foxy- Awesome information!! Thanks so much. I will definitely check it out.
Tallulah- Yeah, I think he loves you a little right now.
I hate slime ball car dealers (which is pretty much all of them, isn't it?) It always makes me wish I had maddd negotiating skillz.
SupaCoo- You and me both, sister.
Ah yes. Once you understand that the car dealer is never telling the truth, you'll be fine. I went through the same thing. I'd been looking at cars, and told the guy specifically what my deal would be. He called two weeks later and said they had the car I wanted, and the numbers were right. Well, I drove 40 miles to the dealership, and the numbers were NOT what I'd given him.
Douchebag, indeed.
Dk- Ah, so you know about the seething anger that I speak of? ;)
I would just keep on as you are keeping on.
Write a number on a piece of paper and say if you can't meet it, I'm walking.
Someone will not let you get away sooner or later.
ASM- Good idea. You are probably right.
Sounds like way too much work... Go with Foxy's advice... (but then you've probably already got a new car by now.)
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